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    Nov 24, 2017#526

    Well jen did come from a flop single and with no airplay yet there's really nothing to maintain its views.

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      Nov 27, 2017#527

      WEEK 1
      2017/11/10 2,221,083 views
      2017/11/11 2,691,433 views
      2017/11/12 2,495,234 views
      2017/11/13 2,984,079 views
      2017/11/14 2,657,064 views
      2017/11/15 2,448,084 views
      2017/11/16 2,300,965 views
      2017/11/17 2,779,326 views

      WEEK 2
      2017/11/18 2,217,316 views
      2017/11/19 1,752,600 views
      2017/11/20 1,530,448 views
      2017/11/21 1,445,389 views
      2017/11/22 1,365,643 views
      2017/11/23 1,467,123 views

      2017/11/24 1,481,631 views

      WEEK 3
      2017/11/25 1,563,853 views

      2017/11/23 Radio debut
      SPANISH
      38 --
      JENNIFER LOPEZ
      Amor, Amor, Amor f/Wisin
      154 -- 154 -- 1.438 -- 1 533 38 154 154 1.438

      After the song debuted on the radio, the video had more views again.
      Let's hope it stays that way.

      And maybe if the music does well in Spain, it will follow the steps of AYM in the rest of Europe.

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        Nov 27, 2017#528

        luizcerqueira wrote:WEEK 1
        2017/11/10 2,221,083 views
        2017/11/11 2,691,433 views
        2017/11/12 2,495,234 views
        2017/11/13 2,984,079 views
        2017/11/14 2,657,064 views
        2017/11/15 2,448,084 views
        2017/11/16 2,300,965 views
        2017/11/17 2,779,326 views

        WEEK 2
        2017/11/18 2,217,316 views
        2017/11/19 1,752,600 views
        2017/11/20 1,530,448 views
        2017/11/21 1,445,389 views
        2017/11/22 1,365,643 views
        2017/11/23 1,467,123 views

        2017/11/24 1,481,631 views

        WEEK 3
        2017/11/25 1,563,853 views

        2017/11/23 Radio debut
        SPANISH
        38 --
        JENNIFER LOPEZ
        Amor, Amor, Amor f/Wisin
        154 -- 154 -- 1.438 -- 1 533 38 154 154 1.438

        After the song debuted on the radio, the video had more views again.
        Let's hope it stays that way.

        And maybe if the music does well in Spain, it will follow the steps of AYM in the rest of Europe.
        If I am not mistaken on 27th the video only had about 1,1 mln views. :(
        Amor Amor Amor it's a nice video, of course it isn' t the best one but not the worst.
        And I don't understand why Shakira' s chicken shit video Perro Fiel that was released in September w/o any promo still has about 4 mln. views daily! :argh

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          Nov 27, 2017#529

          ripoll wrote:
          luizcerqueira wrote:WEEK 1
          2017/11/10 2,221,083 views
          2017/11/11 2,691,433 views
          2017/11/12 2,495,234 views
          2017/11/13 2,984,079 views
          2017/11/14 2,657,064 views
          2017/11/15 2,448,084 views
          2017/11/16 2,300,965 views
          2017/11/17 2,779,326 views

          WEEK 2
          2017/11/18 2,217,316 views
          2017/11/19 1,752,600 views
          2017/11/20 1,530,448 views
          2017/11/21 1,445,389 views
          2017/11/22 1,365,643 views
          2017/11/23 1,467,123 views

          2017/11/24 1,481,631 views

          WEEK 3
          2017/11/25 1,563,853 views

          2017/11/23 Radio debut
          SPANISH
          38 --
          JENNIFER LOPEZ
          Amor, Amor, Amor f/Wisin
          154 -- 154 -- 1.438 -- 1 533 38 154 154 1.438

          After the song debuted on the radio, the video had more views again.
          Let's hope it stays that way.

          And maybe if the music does well in Spain, it will follow the steps of AYM in the rest of Europe.
          If I am not mistaken on 27th the video only had about 1,1 mln views. :(
          Amor Amor Amor it's a nice video, of course it isn' t the best one but not the worst.
          And I don't understand why Shakira' s chicken shit video Perro Fiel that was released in September w/o any promo still has about 4 mln. views daily! :argh
          You do realize that celebrities can buy views, right? That's probably what she's doing. Either that or her fans are cheating by refreshing the video constantly.

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            Nov 27, 2017#530

            QueenCedar101 wrote:
            ripoll wrote:
            luizcerqueira wrote:WEEK 1
            2017/11/10 2,221,083 views
            2017/11/11 2,691,433 views
            2017/11/12 2,495,234 views
            2017/11/13 2,984,079 views
            2017/11/14 2,657,064 views
            2017/11/15 2,448,084 views
            2017/11/16 2,300,965 views
            2017/11/17 2,779,326 views

            WEEK 2
            2017/11/18 2,217,316 views
            2017/11/19 1,752,600 views
            2017/11/20 1,530,448 views
            2017/11/21 1,445,389 views
            2017/11/22 1,365,643 views
            2017/11/23 1,467,123 views

            2017/11/24 1,481,631 views

            WEEK 3
            2017/11/25 1,563,853 views

            2017/11/23 Radio debut
            SPANISH
            38 --
            JENNIFER LOPEZ
            Amor, Amor, Amor f/Wisin
            154 -- 154 -- 1.438 -- 1 533 38 154 154 1.438

            After the song debuted on the radio, the video had more views again.
            Let's hope it stays that way.

            And maybe if the music does well in Spain, it will follow the steps of AYM in the rest of Europe.
            If I am not mistaken on 27th the video only had about 1,1 mln views. :(
            Amor Amor Amor it's a nice video, of course it isn' t the best one but not the worst.
            And I don't understand why Shakira' s chicken shit video Perro Fiel that was released in September w/o any promo still has about 4 mln. views daily! :argh
            You do realize that celebrities can buy views, right? That's probably what she's doing. Either that or her fans are cheating by refreshing the video constantly.
            both!!! i'm agree QueenCedar101

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              Nov 27, 2017#531

              DtothaLO wrote:
              QueenCedar101 wrote:
              ripoll wrote:
              luizcerqueira wrote:WEEK 1
              2017/11/10 2,221,083 views
              2017/11/11 2,691,433 views
              2017/11/12 2,495,234 views
              2017/11/13 2,984,079 views
              2017/11/14 2,657,064 views
              2017/11/15 2,448,084 views
              2017/11/16 2,300,965 views
              2017/11/17 2,779,326 views

              WEEK 2
              2017/11/18 2,217,316 views
              2017/11/19 1,752,600 views
              2017/11/20 1,530,448 views
              2017/11/21 1,445,389 views
              2017/11/22 1,365,643 views
              2017/11/23 1,467,123 views

              2017/11/24 1,481,631 views

              WEEK 3
              2017/11/25 1,563,853 views

              2017/11/23 Radio debut
              SPANISH
              38 --
              JENNIFER LOPEZ
              Amor, Amor, Amor f/Wisin
              154 -- 154 -- 1.438 -- 1 533 38 154 154 1.438

              After the song debuted on the radio, the video had more views again.
              Let's hope it stays that way.

              And maybe if the music does well in Spain, it will follow the steps of AYM in the rest of Europe.
              If I am not mistaken on 27th the video only had about 1,1 mln views. :(
              Amor Amor Amor it's a nice video, of course it isn' t the best one but not the worst.
              And I don't understand why Shakira' s chicken shit video Perro Fiel that was released in September w/o any promo still has about 4 mln. views daily! :argh
              You do realize that celebrities can buy views, right? That's probably what she's doing. Either that or her fans are cheating by refreshing the video constantly.
              both!!! i'm agree QueenCedar101
              True. It probably is both. Celebs do this all the time. I also noticed that the Shakifans will degrade another artist to lift their faves out. They came for Thalia, who can at least sing good live, and they even try to come for Britney, who is the real Princess of Pop. Like, Britney is legendary and has achieved things Shakira wishes, even without buying views. I love Shakira's music, but her fans are ruining it for me. Let's be real. Record sales > YouTube views

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                Nov 27, 2017#532

                QueenCedar101 wrote:
                DtothaLO wrote:
                QueenCedar101 wrote:
                ripoll wrote:
                If I am not mistaken on 27th the video only had about 1,1 mln views. :(
                Amor Amor Amor it's a nice video, of course it isn' t the best one but not the worst.
                And I don't understand why Shakira' s chicken shit video Perro Fiel that was released in September w/o any promo still has about 4 mln. views daily! :argh
                You do realize that celebrities can buy views, right? That's probably what she's doing. Either that or her fans are cheating by refreshing the video constantly.
                both!!! i'm agree QueenCedar101
                True. It probably is both. Celebs do this all the time. I also noticed that the Shakifans will degrade another artist to lift their faves out. They came for Thalia, who can at least sing good live, and they even try to come for Britney, who is the real Princess of Pop. Like, Britney is legendary and has achieved things Shakira wishes, even without buying views. I love Shakira's music, but her fans are ruining it for me. Let's be real. Record sales > YouTube views
                The real answer is "NICKY JAM".

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                  Nov 27, 2017#533

                  QueenCedar101 wrote:
                  ripoll wrote:
                  luizcerqueira wrote:
                  If I am not mistaken on 27th the video only had about 1,1 mln views. :(
                  Amor Amor Amor it's a nice video, of course it isn' t the best one but not the worst.
                  And I don't understand why Shakira' s chicken shit video Perro Fiel that was released in September w/o any promo still has about 4 mln. views daily! :argh
                  You do realize that celebrities can buy views, right? That's probably what she's doing. Either that or her fans are cheating by refreshing the video constantly.
                  I think it's because Shakira is a world-loved artist. She has almost no haters. And her fans are loyal.
                  Plus, the label never fails to support her. She always has banners, she is always included in sportify lists, has ads on youtube... and Nicky Jam is one of the big names in Latin scene right now.

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                    Nov 27, 2017#534

                    alexliveitup! wrote:
                    QueenCedar101 wrote:
                    DtothaLO wrote:
                    QueenCedar101 wrote:
                    You do realize that celebrities can buy views, right? That's probably what she's doing. Either that or her fans are cheating by refreshing the video constantly.
                    both!!! i'm agree QueenCedar101
                    True. It probably is both. Celebs do this all the time. I also noticed that the Shakifans will degrade another artist to lift their faves out. They came for Thalia, who can at least sing good live, and they even try to come for Britney, who is the real Princess of Pop. Like, Britney is legendary and has achieved things Shakira wishes, even without buying views. I love Shakira's music, but her fans are ruining it for me. Let's be real. Record sales > YouTube views
                    The real answer is "NICKY JAM".
                    And Maluma. Which brings me to another point. The real reason she's getting those views is because she's collaborating with the biggest names in Latin music right now. Even with that, it's funny, because her album here in the U.S. only sold less than 30K units.

                      Nov 27, 2017#535

                      luizcerqueira wrote:
                      QueenCedar101 wrote:
                      ripoll wrote:
                      luizcerqueira wrote:
                      If I am not mistaken on 27th the video only had about 1,1 mln views. :(
                      Amor Amor Amor it's a nice video, of course it isn' t the best one but not the worst.
                      And I don't understand why Shakira' s chicken shit video Perro Fiel that was released in September w/o any promo still has about 4 mln. views daily! :argh
                      You do realize that celebrities can buy views, right? That's probably what she's doing. Either that or her fans are cheating by refreshing the video constantly.
                      I think it's because Shakira is a world-loved artist. She has almost no haters. And her fans are loyal.
                      Plus, the label never fails to support her. She always has banners, she is always included in sportify lists, has ads on youtube... and Nicky Jam is one of the big names in Latin scene right now.
                      Hold up, wait. let me savor in what you just said.
                      "world-loved artist"
                      "almost no haters"
                      "fans are loyal"

                      I wouldn't say that she's world-loved. Most of her fans are in Latin America, parts of Europe, and maybe the Middle East, but even then, she doesn't have that much love. And I wouldn't say "almost no haters" either, because there are plenty of people that don't like her and there are haters that we don't know about. Which in all honesty, the main reason she's loved is because of her belly-dance moves. She's has songs that I love, but good sis can't sing for toffee. Just look up her World Cup performance from 2010. She is horrendous live and couldn't even dance while singing. She makes Selena Gomez sound like Aretha Franklin. Her fans are loyal by cheating on YouTube views and acting delusional. They act like she is more famous than Britney. Her fans can come for me, but it's okay though, because they're never at the store to buy their fave's albums (28,000 units sold first week).

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                        Nov 29, 2017#536

                        RuRuLoVesJLO wrote:Havana sounds like something Jen would record between her OT6 and JLo eras. What did Puffy call it? Latin-Soul. Too bad she doesn't do Latin Soul anymore....
                        She's too busy trying to keep up with trends but lagging behind them.

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                          Nov 29, 2017#537

                          Anyone trying to drag Shakira based on her last album's sales shouldn't forget AKA so quickly. Shakira's album was Spanish and was promoted far less than AKA, yet their first week sales were not that different. Also Shakira's last album had sold 131 000 US copies by July this year which easily outperforms AKA's US sales after 3 years and that's for a Spanish album. Plus singles and global album sales absolutely demolish AKA. I really hope Jen can pick up with Por Prima Vez.

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                            Nov 29, 2017#538

                            Dan#jlofan wrote:Anyone trying to drag Shakira based on her last album's sales shouldn't forget AKA so quickly. Shakira's album was Spanish and was promoted far less than AKA, yet their first week sales were not that different. Also Shakira's last album had sold 131 000 US copies by July this year which easily outperforms AKA's US sales after 3 years and that's for a Spanish album. Plus singles and global album sales absolutely demolish AKA. I really hope Jen can pick up with Por Prima Vez.
                            Maybe it wasn't promoted on talk shows, but with all those views she has, you would think she'd sell more. Her fans brag about them as if they count more than pure sales. It's probably because there are more people that live in Latin America than the U.S. itself, and she caters more to them. Still doesn't change that she can't sing a note.

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                              Nov 29, 2017#539

                              I'm not a Shaki fan. I'm a JLo fan, but I'm not blind.
                              She certainly has less haters than Jennifer. JLo is attacked as an actress and as a singer. Shakira "is horrendous live and could not even dance while singing". Still, she's taken more seriously as a singer than Jennifer. And let's not forget that Jennifer doesn't dance while she sings either. Both use prerecorded vocals.
                              And talk about World Cup? When "We Are One" came out, people was begging for Shakira with another Waka Waka or Hips Dont Lie. "La La" (Dare You) was more receive than We Are One. Maybe not in the US, but worldwide.
                              Not saying she's better, cuz imo she's not.

                              Anyway, that's not what I'm talking about.
                              I said she is world loved artist just because people like her. If not as a singer, at least as a human being. I've never heard anyone comment that Shakira is arrogant or a diva. On the contrary, she is always cute and praised for her social actions. And it was never related to bad publicity. You've never seen her related to the use of animal skins or making shows for dictators. Unfortunately many people still see Jennifer as a diva (despite she's not).

                              At least, this is what I see in music's foruns and pop websites.
                              And here in Brazil: Shakira >>>>>>> Jennifer. Sadly, but true.

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                                Nov 29, 2017#540

                                luizcerqueira wrote:I'm not a Shaki fan. I'm a JLo fan, but I'm not blind.
                                She certainly has less haters than Jennifer. JLo is attacked as an actress and as a singer. Shakira "is horrendous live and could not even dance while singing". Still, she's taken more seriously as a singer than Jennifer. And let's not forget that Jennifer doesn't dance while she sings either. Both use prerecorded vocals.
                                And talk about World Cup? When "We Are One" came out, people was begging for Shakira with another Waka Waka or Hips Dont Lie. "La La" (Dare You) was more receive than We Are One. Maybe not in the US, but worldwide.
                                Not saying she's better, cuz imo she's not.

                                Anyway, that's not what I'm talking about.
                                I said she is world loved artist just because people like her. If not as a singer, at least as a human being. I've never heard anyone comment that Shakira is arrogant or a diva. On the contrary, she is always cute and praised for her social actions. And it was never related to bad publicity. You've never seen her related to the use of animal skins or making shows for dictators. Unfortunately many people still see Jennifer as a diva (despite she's not).

                                At least, this is what I see in music's foruns and pop websites.
                                And here in Brazil: Shakira >>>>>>> Jennifer. Sadly, but true.
                                You have a point. But Shakira is really more catered to the Latin American market, especially since she is fluent in Spanish and a few other languages. Plus, she graduated from high school at the age of 15, and has an I.Q. of 140, which is right on Genius level. I'm from the United States, and not that many people care for her here, which explains why she has only 1 #1 song and 0 #1 albums. I remember someone asking us in front of a group does anyone know about Shakira, and I was literally the only one that loved her. There were a few that said "Yeah" and some were like "Who?", but no one else loved her. I think a reason Shakira may seem very loved, is because there isn't much drama surrounding her, she's not in the spotlight as much, and she hasn't been with many men, nor has she made her relationships public. She has a clean image. I respect her for not being with so many men and doing lots of PR stunts, but I've seen people say that Shakira can't sing, she sounds like a goat, and other sayings like that. Plus, she's really known for her belly dancing, not singing, so she really isn't taken seriously as a singer. If anything, she's really just a stripper with a mic. I will never forget the "Rabiosa" and CRTFY videos. I was so disappointed in what she did in those videos and haven't watched since. I'm not denying that J.Lo doesn't use prerecorded vocals nor am I saying she isn't a stripper with a mic. She has lip synced, which saddens me, because I thought she would have the talent to sing live. I thought I heard her DAWT was almost all live. Of course she's no Whitney Houston, Lea Salonga, or Jane Zhang, she [J.Lo] has proven that when she puts in the effort, she can sing. I actually happened to find a video of Shakira's live vocals:



                                If these really are live, she actually doesn't sound bad here, but still not exactly a great vocalist. I'd place her in the same category as Rihanna. Not a great singer, but a memorable voice that can be called their own.

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                                  Nov 29, 2017#541

                                  It's not a Shakira forum lol

                                  37,2 mln

                                  Views decreased a bit ... ;/

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                                    Nov 29, 2017#542

                                    Yes plz keep shakira away , btw the views are decreasing:/

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                                      Nov 29, 2017#543

                                      Well, duh. It's not a Shakira forum. Someone just happened to bring her up, so I added something to it. But I digress. Amor x3 was #10 on the chart last week and now it happens to be at #29. At this point, the chances of it ever making the Hot 100 are slim to none.

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                                        Nov 30, 2017#544

                                        QueenCedar101 wrote:Well, duh. It's not a Shakira forum. Someone just happened to bring her up, so I added something to it. But I digress. Amor x3 was #10 on the chart last week and now it happens to be at #29. At this point, the chances of it ever making the Hot 100 are slim to none.
                                        That is an absolutely huge drop. :x She needs to do something now or stop releasing singles when she's busy with other things.

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                                          Nov 30, 2017#545

                                          Dan#jlofan wrote:
                                          QueenCedar101 wrote:Well, duh. It's not a Shakira forum. Someone just happened to bring her up, so I added something to it. But I digress. Amor x3 was #10 on the chart last week and now it happens to be at #29. At this point, the chances of it ever making the Hot 100 are slim to none.
                                          That is an absolutely huge drop. :x She needs to do something now or stop releasing singles when she's busy with other things.
                                          Yeah. It is pretty scary. It probably has to do with "Second Act", which is definitely not going to help her, and if anything, it may harm her. Rom-coms like this are some of the reasons she's not taken seriously as an actress, especially with the Razzie noms and the critical backlash. You can't really make that much money in the music industry anymore, but it's sad to see other people releasing their stuff as expected, while hers just keep being pushed back, even with her dating A-Rod. She may also not be promoting it, because of what happened with A.K.A. It was promoted to the max, but still flopped terribly. Plus, I heard that she didn't promote much in Europe, and that's why sales were super low there. I don't know if they expect us fans to push it high on the charts or something to magically happen without promo. I guess that's what happens when you pick the wrong projects and your personal life overshadows your career/talent.

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                                            Nov 30, 2017#546

                                            It's decreasing because Of Minimal Airplay but I also think it's the holiday season starting to impact it. I noticed a lot of songs fell hard in views, since you guys brought up Havana in the other thread it was averaging 7.5 million and now it's at 4.2million and tons of other random songs. Sadly AAA is barely started to increase in airplay right when the holidays are around the corner. Hopefully in hangs in there till january

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                                              Nov 30, 2017#547

                                              juniorsega wrote:It's decreasing because Of Minimal Airplay but I also think it's the holiday season starting to impact it. I noticed a lot of songs fell hard in views, since you guys brought up Havana in the other thread it was averaging 7.5 million and now it's at 4.2million and tons of other random songs. Sadly AAA is barely started to increase in airplay right when the holidays are around the corner. Hopefully in hangs in there till january
                                              It's unlikely. I saw that "Echame La Culpa" has debuted at #47 on the Hot 100, which isn't the highest, but even that song is getting publicity and it already has more than 130M views on YouTube.

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                                                Nov 30, 2017#548

                                                ITS a shame she’s not promoting her music and letting it flop

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                                                  Nov 30, 2017#549

                                                  selena lopez wrote:ITS a shame she’s not promoting her music and letting it flop
                                                  Right? And she's the only one to blame.

                                                  Sadly, but looks like video it's doing under 1kk now...
                                                  I was hoping close the 3week with 40kk+, but probably we'll have 39kk (struggling).
                                                  It's good, but could do so much better with promo and airplays.

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                                                  If 29 and today keep decreasing... well, it's such a shame.

                                                  Jen doesn't realize that her major quality is her worst enemy.
                                                  She keeps doing everything and doesn't focus on nothing.

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                                                    Nov 30, 2017#550

                                                    I can't believe Luis Fonsi's Echame La Culpa it's now on 135 million views, and AMORx3 keeps on 37 millions :argh

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