Shakira wins "Best Latin Pop Album" at the Grammys

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by QueenCedar101, Jan 28th, 2018, 6:05 pm



Do you think she deserved it or no? Any thoughts?
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by J, Jan 28th, 2018, 6:24 pm

Great album.

Shakira's 3rd Grammy. Well deserved! :jenclap
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by rafaelsalguero, Jan 28th, 2018, 9:17 pm

Well Deserved???? This is a Joke
NATALIA LAFOURCADE álbum it's simply A-R-T !!!!
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by J, Jan 28th, 2018, 9:21 pm

rafaelsalguero wrote:Well Deserved???? This is a Joke
NATALIA LAFOURCADE álbum it's simply A-R-T !!!!


Too many covers. It's not really a "pop album". :coffee

It won the Latin Grammy for Folk Album. A more "traditional" category.
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by rafaelsalguero, Jan 28th, 2018, 9:23 pm

and Shakira too many Reggaetón Cheap Generic Songs, Recycled Song from other eras, and Collaborations for other albums
You think if Jennifer reléase "EL DORADO" they will give her a Grammy???
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by J, Jan 28th, 2018, 9:26 pm

rafaelsalguero wrote:and Shakira too many Reggaetón Cheap Generic Songs, Recycled Song from other eras, and Collaborations for other albums
You think if Jennifer reléase "EL DORADO" they will give her a Grammy???


With songs like Chantaje, La Bicecleta, Me Enamoré and Perro Fiel? YES!

With songs like NTNY, Ax3 + lots of lipsynching? I'm afraid not...
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by QueenCedar101, Jan 28th, 2018, 9:46 pm

The tea.

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by rafaelsalguero, Jan 28th, 2018, 10:05 pm

J wrote:
rafaelsalguero wrote:and Shakira too many Reggaetón Cheap Generic Songs, Recycled Song from other eras, and Collaborations for other albums
You think if Jennifer reléase "EL DORADO" they will give her a Grammy???


With songs like Chantaje, La Bicecleta, Me Enamoré and Perro Fiel? YES!

With songs like NTNY, Ax3 + lots of lipsynching? I'm afraid not...


ME enamore? PErro Fiel ?? HAHAHA
Are you serious???
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by QueenCedar101, Jan 28th, 2018, 10:08 pm

rafaelsalguero wrote:
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rafaelsalguero wrote:and Shakira too many Reggaetón Cheap Generic Songs, Recycled Song from other eras, and Collaborations for other albums
You think if Jennifer reléase "EL DORADO" they will give her a Grammy???


With songs like Chantaje, La Bicecleta, Me Enamoré and Perro Fiel? YES!

With songs like NTNY, Ax3 + lots of lipsynching? I'm afraid not...


ME enamore? PErro Fiel ?? HAHAHA
Are you serious???


Perro Fiel was a bop, and El Dorado was a good album, but Grammy worthy? I think not.
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rafaelsalguero wrote:and Shakira too many Reggaetón Cheap Generic Songs, Recycled Song from other eras, and Collaborations for other albums
You think if Jennifer reléase "EL DORADO" they will give her a Grammy???


With songs like Chantaje, La Bicecleta, Me Enamoré and Perro Fiel? YES!

With songs like NTNY, Ax3 + lots of lipsynching? I'm afraid not...


And Shakira doesn't lip sync a lot?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
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by J, Jan 28th, 2018, 10:10 pm

Not as much as Jennifer :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
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by chrisjlover, Jan 28th, 2018, 10:13 pm

J wrote:Not as much as Jennifer :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

Btw Jen has also did NTNY & AAA live (she lipsynced them only in the Calibash shows)
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by QueenCedar101, Jan 28th, 2018, 10:17 pm

J wrote:Not as much as Jennifer :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:


Btw, I didn't forget that time when Shakira lip-synced her World Cup performance, and she made Selena Gomez sound like Aretha Franklin. :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

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J wrote:Not as much as Jennifer :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

Btw Jen has also did NTNY & AAA live (she lipsynced them only in the Calibash shows)


Spilling the tea.
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by J, Jan 28th, 2018, 10:18 pm

chrisjlover wrote:
J wrote:Not as much as Jennifer :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

Btw Jen has also did NTNY & AAA live (she lipsynced them only in the Calibash shows)


That's true. But the voting members of the Academy only watch televised performances I think. The 4th of July performance was pretty good.

The thing is... Jen has a bad reputation when it comes to singing live. That's why I want her to sing live more often (on TV). No pre-recorded vocals. Just her and her background singers. Then maybe people will take her more seriously as a singer.
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by CosTaSsSs, Jan 29th, 2018, 4:43 am

J wrote:
rafaelsalguero wrote:and Shakira too many Reggaetón Cheap Generic Songs, Recycled Song from other eras, and Collaborations for other albums
You think if Jennifer reléase "EL DORADO" they will give her a Grammy???


With songs like Chantaje, La Bicecleta, Me Enamoré and Perro Fiel? YES!

With songs like NTNY, Ax3 + lots of lipsynching? I'm afraid not...


Sis... Shakira released an album full of her featurings... her album isn't that original.
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by Dan#jlofan, Jan 29th, 2018, 5:27 am

I think that Shakira deserves this Grammy. She played her cards right to get this, it didn't just happen for her.

1) The album actually had popular singles;
Chantaje (US Latin songs #1 for 11 weeks, Spain #1, Germany #20), Me Enamore ( US Latin Songs #4, Spain #3, France #13), Perro Fiel (US Latin Songs #6, Spain #3)

2) Really strong streaming of the singles
Chantaje - Over 2billion Youtube views
Me Enamore - Over 500 million YouTube views
Perro Fiel - Over 400 million YouTube views

3) Respectable Chart positions and sales
US Latin #1
Spain #2
France #4
Italy #12
US #15

4) A world tour to accompany the album.

5) Relatively positive reviews

If Jen had similar success and acclaim with her album she might actually get a nomination. But thanks to her neglect of NTNY and AAA it's not looking likely.
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by rafaelsalguero, Jan 29th, 2018, 6:36 am

So the Grammy its about Charts or Quality??
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by Crazy4JenL, Jan 29th, 2018, 9:06 am

Why are y'all so mad at Shakira? She is way more successful musically than Jen is and she deserves it.
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by QueenCedar101, Jan 29th, 2018, 9:27 am

Crazy4JenL wrote:Why are y'all so mad at Shakira? She is way more successful musically than Jen is and she deserves it.


Oh, yeah! She can't carry a note, but she's so successful, she deserves it. Success doesn't equal talent one bit.
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by QueenCedar101, Jan 29th, 2018, 9:29 am

CosTaSsSs wrote:
J wrote:
rafaelsalguero wrote:and Shakira too many Reggaetón Cheap Generic Songs, Recycled Song from other eras, and Collaborations for other albums
You think if Jennifer reléase "EL DORADO" they will give her a Grammy???


With songs like Chantaje, La Bicecleta, Me Enamoré and Perro Fiel? YES!

With songs like NTNY, Ax3 + lots of lipsynching? I'm afraid not...


Sis... Shakira released an album full of her featurings... her album isn't that original.


Spill the beans!

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And La Bicicleta (while not on the album) was accused of being plagiarized. Plus, she's always lip syncing.
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by LoveJennyLo, Jan 29th, 2018, 11:24 am

rafaelsalguero wrote:So the Grammy its about Charts or Quality??

This is the proof that charts matter most lately. This album winning in that category is a joke. It’s a shame she wins with such mediocre material when she used to record, mature and deep music years ago (eg. Fijación oral).
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by QueenCedar101, Jan 29th, 2018, 11:55 am

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rafaelsalguero wrote:So the Grammy its about Charts or Quality??

This is the proof that charts matter most lately. This album winning in that category is a joke. It’s a shame she wins with such mediocre material when she used to record, mature and deep music years ago (eg. Fijación oral).


Now that I think about it, you're right. Laundry Service was really good, and if any of her material deserved a Grammy or two, it was that era, and possibly her earlier stuff. Now, she's just basically producing stuff that you can hear from any other Latin artist of today. The charts have mattered the most overall, not just in that category. She's won like 15 or 16 Grammys. She might would be worthy of 1 or 2, but more than Gloria Estefan? More than Celia Cruz? More than Jenni Rivera (though, she's won none)? Come on.
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by jd, Jan 29th, 2018, 4:13 pm

Ni tu ni yo and amor are mo better songs than shakiras singles, but just because they didn t chart good it makes them bad songs?

How funny is this forum sometimes.

Shakira can be great, but this must be her
Worst album to date.
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by Dan#jlofan, Jan 29th, 2018, 6:06 pm

Lol at y'all acting dumb. Everyone here knows how the game works. Charts don't determine Grammys, but it does help determine what's on their radar. The stuff Jen has been releasing has been on no award shows radar. Do u think if desposito was a flop it would be getting nominated for anything?

I can't believe that some of you are actually trashing her vocal ability when every other fan base does that to Jen.
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by QueenCedar101, Jan 29th, 2018, 7:36 pm

Dan#jlofan wrote:Lol at y'all acting dumb. Everyone here knows how the game works. Charts don't determine Grammys, but it does help determine what's on their radar. The stuff Jen has been releasing has been on no award shows radar. Do u think if desposito was a flop it would be getting nominated for anything?

I can't believe that some of you are actually trashing her vocal ability when every other fan base does that to Jen.


Except that a lot of us fans know that J.Lo isn't the best singer in the world. For the other fans of her and other fan bases, they're quite deluded. Saying that Shakira deserves Grammys due to success is like saying Jake Paul is the G.O.A.T. Haven't you figured out that Grammys don't define talent?
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by Dan#jlofan, Jan 29th, 2018, 7:52 pm

rafaelsalguero wrote:So the Grammy its about Charts or Quality??


The simple answer is both.

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